first lemme respond to your comment and then try and explain what i am really tryin to say, maybe this this it will be clear.
at no point of time has there been conclusive proof that any of these nations had WMDs. on the contrary, facts hv come to light that american claims of WMD possession against Iraq were war propaganda.
Dude, I would strongly suggest that you ensure that you read whatever I have written before rushing off your replies. It could also help if you read the post directly over the computer. It’s the least you could do for your blogger buddy. I had never said that the threat of Iraq possessing WMDs was a genuine one. I know and the whole world knows that it was just an excuse to start a fight. In my comments earlier, I have made this point very clear. I had called it a joke. Then why do you reply as above, as if I am oblivious of this fact and that it is gonna appear in tomorrow morning’s headlines?
if its not americas responsibility to fix others state of sorry affairs, then why is it meddling in afghan, irani, iraqi and korean affairs?
I am perplexed after reading this. It is true that America has meddled in the affairs of and used military might against most of them. So? But this time US is not using its military against pak, it is not invading it. You surely don’t mean that, since US has meddled in the affairs of so and so states, as a thumb rule, it is not fair that it is not meddling with the affairs of Pakistan directly? No one should think that there is a general rule of stupidity that governs US’s actions.
In contrast, Indian foreign policy has been most beautiful with the necessary restraint and maturity, which many people mistake for cowardism.
Do you really think that Indian foreign policy is good? Now don’t even get me started on this. I am not writing anything on this now, as it would override the point that we are trying to make. Talking about too may things would make the entire discussion vague. If you wanna discuss this, then do write enumerating the merits of the so called Indian foreign policy, I would surely respond.
Dude, the people who visit this blog or have read anything I have written in the past would know what I feel about US foreign policy. This is what I had written at the start of the article.
i can understand why you are upset with the us, their foreign policy sucks. from my earlier posts it would be apparent what i think about us and its policies.
Does it sound like I am a big fan of the US? You of all people should know what I think about it and its policies.
Well, let me come to the point that I am trying to make. Maybe it would become clearer now.
I would like to ask one thing. Do you at all feel that the old man named by his mama as parvez is anywhere responsible for this whole messy mess? If you do, then why aren’t you talking about it? Now we both know that he is just a pawn in the whole game between the pak army, the isi and the west. So lets not waste our time with that. But sumwhere, don’t you think the man’s hunger to hold on to power needs to be condemned in the strongest sense. He certainly has some vested interests and will not rest till he has achieved them. Since this is the same man who directed the kargil action sequences, it should certainly give Indians sumthing to think about. This man cannot be trusted. Why give him the clean chit? All I am saying is that US is indeed responsible for all the mess it is in now. But the point that I am trying to make is, (PLEASE DO PAY ATTENTION HERE) for USA, PAKISTAN IS A FOREIGN NATION, IT REALLY CARES LITTLE IF IT GOES TO HELL OR BOUNCES OFF ITS CRUST. BUT AS FAR AS THIS LITTLE MAN IS CONCERNED, ISNT THIS HIS ADOPTED NATION? DOESN’T ITS AND ITS PEOPLE’S WELFARE FIGURE ANYWHERE IN HIS TO-DO LIST? WHY IS HE DETERMINED TO LICK FOREIGN ASSES JUST TO STAY IN POWER? ISNT IT HIS GREED? HE IS READY TO PUT ITS FUTURE AT STAKE JUST TO CLING ON TO POWER? HOW DOES THIS MAKE HIM ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE TWO PAK PMs?
This is the point that I am trying to make. I think more than US, inspite of all its dirty tricks, the internal elements of Pakistan like the army, the isi and ofcourse the general are more guilty for the situation that the country is in now.
One last thing, you made your point very clear only in my reply, while in the first post that you made, you had just briefed that US is at fault, without explaining the reasons for your thought. Don’t wait for my reply to elaborate on your views. Do it at the first instance, it would make more interesting reading.
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i've read ur post sincerely my friend. and i know ur not a fan of US. so dont take it as an accusation. but then wat makes u feel, pak is different frm Afghanistan? if US can attack Afghanistan, i dont see what reasons they have in befriending the not so different Pakistan!!!
u in ur earlier post had said, america is already has its hands full. i just wanted 2 make a point that US cant blame others for the mess they've created.
and wat is it that perplexes u wen US is not invading pak? its but natural. US doesnt NEED to invade pak. they have their puppet, Musharraf, duing their job!!! u'll notice that US has 'invaded' only those nations whose leaders refused 2 follow american orders. be it iran, afghanistan or iraq. as of now, USA has musharraf duing their job for them. If i were USA, i definitely wudnt invade pak. but that doesnt give a clean chit to america!
indian foreign policy i better than most other nations dude. u cant have a flawless policy. but its definitely better than our past policies! stop expecting the best things coming ur way! u already know how the left (assholes) has made life miserable.
and as for the last part of ur post, abt mushy licking foreign ass...
pak is a foreign nation for USA. but so is it for India too!!! so why do YOU care wat mushy does with his countrymen?! let the pakis get their asses whipped by mushy's military belt! what do we care?! if its not mushy, its gonna be someone else. AS LONG AS USA continues support, these dictators wont budge.
for any dictator to survive, only one thing is necessary. FEARSOME CONTROL. without US support, mushy or any other dictator wont be able 2 achieve that control. let US stop the fund flow to pakistan and see how the nation crumbles to bits!!!!
its the US dollars that are making their way 2 ISI, Pak military and been leached by the terrorists.
so dont blame mushy. he's a puppet. u remove him, another one will spring up. as long as US aid continues, it wont stop.
yeah. yeah. i'll be more clear in my very first post the next time. hehehe ;)
kamina kahi ka sala. LOL!!!
after reading all your comments, i see that i do not disagree with you in general. the only thing is when you had first posted the article, you just conveyed that you are pissed off with America, without actually enumerating the reasons for your thought. but now after i demanded some explanation, you have explained your thought process and it is much more precise now. see, more reasons why you should have posted a longer article in the first place, in future, whenever you post sumthin, do explain it then and there itself.
the only place where our thoughts diverge is that you fell us is the bigger villain, whereas my opinion is that its mushy. I know that us is controlling the whole game from outside. The situation can compared to a person playing video game. US is the person controlling the joystick while mushy and others are like characters in the game itself. Inspite of this, I feel that he needs to take the bigger blame. The reason for this is, it is obvious that the outside world will try to play tricks and try to bring a foreign nation down. But what hurts a country most is when its own people start to eat into it and make it hollow from inside, so even a gush of wind will result in its downfall.
My opinion is that an internal enemy is more a evil than an external one.
I agree pal. but u gotta look at it in this light:
There would always be internal elements in any country who'd love 2 dominate and Lord over the nation. but there always has to be a a strong base of democratic values. India as a nation has always had some sort of a democratic history. however, Pakistan as a group of people has been much less democratic.
cause for decay is always there in the air. but living organism dont rot. its the dead that decay.
wen india ceases to be democratic at heart, the cause of rottenness will start its work immediately. its the vibrant discussing and listening attitude that keeps the rottenness at bay.
while the internal system in Pakistan slowly decomposing for want of a vibrant society.
Musharraf is part of pakistani society.
i am not absolving Musharraf. nor Pakistan. Pakistan is going through a crisis which as a neighboring nation, India should be worried about.
but its the americans taking advantage of pakistani crisis to their advantage is what pisses me off.
its just like hungry wolves pouncing upon kids caught in a fire.
anyways, we can go on like this (as always. hehehe)
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