whos at fault

first lemme respond to your comment and then try and explain what i am really tryin to say, maybe this this it will be clear.


at no point of time has there been conclusive proof that any of these nations had WMDs. on the contrary, facts hv come to light that american claims of WMD possession against Iraq were war propaganda.

Dude, I would strongly suggest that you ensure that you read whatever I have written before rushing off your replies. It could also help if you read the post directly over the computer. It’s the least you could do for your blogger buddy. I had never said that the threat of Iraq possessing WMDs was a genuine one. I know and the whole world knows that it was just an excuse to start a fight. In my comments earlier, I have made this point very clear. I had called it a joke. Then why do you reply as above, as if I am oblivious of this fact and that it is gonna appear in tomorrow morning’s headlines?


if its not americas responsibility to fix others state of sorry affairs, then why is it meddling in afghan, irani, iraqi and korean affairs?

I am perplexed after reading this. It is true that America has meddled in the affairs of and used military might against most of them. So? But this time US is not using its military against pak, it is not invading it. You surely don’t mean that, since US has meddled in the affairs of so and so states, as a thumb rule, it is not fair that it is not meddling with the affairs of Pakistan directly? No one should think that there is a general rule of stupidity that governs US’s actions.


In contrast, Indian foreign policy has been most beautiful with the necessary restraint and maturity, which many people mistake for cowardism.

Do you really think that Indian foreign policy is good? Now don’t even get me started on this. I am not writing anything on this now, as it would override the point that we are trying to make. Talking about too may things would make the entire discussion vague. If you wanna discuss this, then do write enumerating the merits of the so called Indian foreign policy, I would surely respond.


Dude, the people who visit this blog or have read anything I have written in the past would know what I feel about US foreign policy. This is what I had written at the start of the article.

i can understand why you are upset with the us, their foreign policy sucks. from my earlier posts it would be apparent what i think about us and its policies.

Does it sound like I am a big fan of the US? You of all people should know what I think about it and its policies.


Well, let me come to the point that I am trying to make. Maybe it would become clearer now.

I would like to ask one thing. Do you at all feel that the old man named by his mama as parvez is anywhere responsible for this whole messy mess? If you do, then why aren’t you talking about it? Now we both know that he is just a pawn in the whole game between the pak army, the isi and the west. So lets not waste our time with that. But sumwhere, don’t you think the man’s hunger to hold on to power needs to be condemned in the strongest sense. He certainly has some vested interests and will not rest till he has achieved them. Since this is the same man who directed the kargil action sequences, it should certainly give Indians sumthing to think about. This man cannot be trusted. Why give him the clean chit? All I am saying is that US is indeed responsible for all the mess it is in now. But the point that I am trying to make is, (PLEASE DO PAY ATTENTION HERE) for USA, PAKISTAN IS A FOREIGN NATION, IT REALLY CARES LITTLE IF IT GOES TO HELL OR BOUNCES OFF ITS CRUST. BUT AS FAR AS THIS LITTLE MAN IS CONCERNED, ISNT THIS HIS ADOPTED NATION? DOESN’T ITS AND ITS PEOPLE’S WELFARE FIGURE ANYWHERE IN HIS TO-DO LIST? WHY IS HE DETERMINED TO LICK FOREIGN ASSES JUST TO STAY IN POWER? ISNT IT HIS GREED? HE IS READY TO PUT ITS FUTURE AT STAKE JUST TO CLING ON TO POWER? HOW DOES THIS MAKE HIM ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE TWO PAK PMs?

This is the point that I am trying to make. I think more than US, inspite of all its dirty tricks, the internal elements of Pakistan like the army, the isi and ofcourse the general are more guilty for the situation that the country is in now.

One last thing, you made your point very clear only in my reply, while in the first post that you made, you had just briefed that US is at fault, without explaining the reasons for your thought. Don’t wait for my reply to elaborate on your views. Do it at the first instance, it would make more interesting reading.

US is protecting its interests

this is my response to an earlier article.

i can understand why you are upset with the us, their foreign policy sucks. from my earlier posts it would be apparent what i think about us and its policies.

but i personally do not think that it is us's resposibility to affix the head of state of each and every country in the world. We should refrain from indiscriminate and blind us bashing. to be fair to the us, it has the right to maneuver the international scenario to suit itself. Every country does that, including our’s. then why point one’s finger at the us this time? At least it is not bombing another nation, however this time I really wish they had done that.

It is indeed implied that mushy would have taken dubyas permission before imposing emergency. But is it the responsibility of the us to see to it that every radical fundamentalist country sticks to democratic ways? Certainly not. Is mushy committed to democracy? Not really, though its his own country. Is he manipulating the system to suit himself, you are damn right he is. Then the question is, then why blame the us? Dubya must not have proactively asked mushy to impose emergency, it has simply not objected to his decision to do so. Hence, I feel mushy is the bigger culprit not the us.

If we talk about a country’s commitment to democracy then lemme ask you this. Is India commited to the spread and preservation of democracy all over the world? Certainly not. If it were, then would it remain a silent spectator in the Myanmar prodemocracy moments? Even afer the people of that country sought india’s help? What is happening in Myanmar is totally wrong. An elected leader has been in house arrest for numerous years now. But India being a strong democratic neighbouring country is not interferening in the country. And rightly so. The military govt in that country has good relations with India, it doesn’t allow its soil to be used for anti Indian activities, which is very important for India considering the troubled north-eastern regions. India doesn’t want an additional ememy in the neighbourhood. It already has its hands full with Pakistan, Bangladesh , the very country we liberated and sri lanka, considering sri lanka is not oblivious of the fact that the ltte do get a lot of help from the southern Indian states, both monetarily and otherwise. Hence why meddle in Myanmar and create more trouble for yourself as if you don’t have enough already.

The situation that us is in at the moment is not very different from our own. It already has its hands full in Afghanistan, considering the Taliban is regrouping and spreading to the northern parts too, and of course iraq, which could well be another Vietnam for them. Besides these two frontiers, it is also worried about iran’s neculear muscle flexing, north Korean military might and terrorism against both mainland us and us interests in various nations. Now it deparately needs mushy’s help as Taliban and al qaida is becoming very active in Pakistan and using that land to mount anti-us activities. Hence, if mushy needs the emergency to make his position strong, then so be it, as far as the us is concerned. Afterall the country has been under the military rule for most part of its post colonial era, so it is not as if they have no taste of the bitter pill. And anyways, why should the us care so much about the people of Pakistan if they themselves are so damn ignorant?

Hence I think the people of phukistan are more at fault as mushy has active support from some sections of the Pakistan politics including the mqm, muhajir qoumi movement, the political party to represent the decedents of those people who left India to make the newly formed Pakistan their new home during the independence of India. Mushy is a muhajir, hence they feel that he represents their community, and support him, oblivious of his thinking and policies. After lal musjid fiasco mushy needs to fight the radicals and hence he has no option but to impose emergency. The us is just making use of him. Once he becomes redundant to them, they will pull their support to him. This is just an adjustment for the us to suit itself. I do not think us is stupid enough to meddle in Pakistan affairs pro actively, though I wish they would and blast the country into outer space.

The us is just protecting its interests.

Nice pics Y!Rocks...

yeah. we cant stop talking abt politics. as hard as we try. but we gotta try harder. LOL. so here's my bit...

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FUCK YOU AMERICA...

The inevitable has happened. Pakistan is once again under a Martial Law regime under dictatorial rule of General Musharraf with puppets installed on top of the judicial machinery. It was only a matter of time that a dictator at the helm of Pakistan's politics would walk in the footsteps of his predecessors. Taliban which once was a Pakistani and more importantly American pet has been let loose. Pakistan and America are once more haunted by their own demonic offsprings.

America is jeopardizing the world peace by meddling in world affairs for its greed. It should stop invading sovereign nations and look after its own affairs. By confronting Iran, meddling in Iraqi and Afghan affairs, USA is destabilizing the region and creating more problems than its solving.

Musharraf's imposing Martial Law is definitely not possible without America knowledge and permission. American hypocrisy is once more demonstrated when it says that it is 'deeply disturbed' by the current turn of events in Pakistan.